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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:05 am    Post subject: Article submission or content duplicacy !
 
 

Since last few days, I am studying different articles on linking strategy. In many articles, I have found authors are giving high importance on article submission for gaining number of quality one way inbound links (IBL). Very good strategy. However, is it useful to the readers? Because people who are in online business must be having tendency to increase the number of back links to gain the so-called link popularity. Due to big G, this is an unavoidable reality. Therefore, people are having a tendency to collect back links by article submission. Article sites, article directory, Article submission category in forums are the most valuable place to post articles. But! And there is always a never-ending but:

One article placed in huge number of article sites and article directories -- will it be considered as duplicate content by big G?

Article placed in a site where relevancy factor is very less. Will it really help the readers?

Which is more important gaining back links or providing good and relevant information to the readers?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:45 am    Post subject:
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One article placed in huge number of article sites and article directories -- will it be considered as duplicate content by big G?

It is not said but for me looks like spam. Article submission is great when it is original and has high quality.

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Article placed in a site where relevancy factor is very less. Will it really help the readers?

Thousands of irrelevant links have smaller impact on position then some highly relevant.

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Which is more important gaining back links or providing good and relevant information to the readers?

It is more important to provide quality content that must be original and helpful. You want to attract readers not just SEs, don't You?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject:
 
 

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It is not said but for me looks like spam. Article submission is great when it is original and has high quality.


I think limitation should be there for article submission. A site owner can place his/her articles in huge number of sites but at the same time, they should have fresh new informative articles too. Because submitting one article in huge number of sites within a short span of time and gaining desired link popularity and PR value is not that hard. In addition, definitely these sites are gaining high ranking in SERPs too. As a result, visitors are not getting the exact information or relevant information from the search engines. Big G should take care of it. Am I right?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject:
 
 

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It is more important to provide quality content that must be original and helpful. You want to attract readers not just SEs, don't You?


I disagree with the thought that content must be original to be valuable. Duplicate content with Google is not really a penalty. If there are a hundred sites that carry an article, it's obvious that Google should not list all 100 pages that have that article in the SERPs. So when you put an article on your site don't expect it to come up in the SERPs, maybe you'll be the lucky one that Google chooses maybe not, just don't count on it.

On the other hand I do use articles for my site that are duplicate. If the article fits my site and fills a gap in the information that I am presenting than it is "quality content" that is "helpful" just because it's a "duplicate" doesn't mean that the person visiting my site has ever seen it before, and if it answers their question than it was useful. Because I thought it was quality enough to put on my site then I'm willing to put a plug in for the writer in the form of a link.

I've seen no evidence that Google devalues this link. this can be shown by the fact that if I search for one my articles will find many sites that use it. Therefore Google at least has record of the link, it has not been banned as spam. No one knows the exact value but Google. But that link shows that the site valued my content.

That is far different then paying for a link. Sites that sell links are doing it for the money not because they think the site they are linking to has any value.

When thinking of adding articles to your site form the submission sites, forget the possibility of this showing up in the SERPs, only consider if the article will benefit you visitors. Write your own fresh pages when you are adding pages that you hope to show in the SERPs, no guarantee but the chances are better that it will draw clicks from the SERPs.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:53 am    Post subject:
 
 

As someone who writes articles, I can tell you pretty well conclusively that Google does not penalize as much as people seem to think when it comes to article writing and submission.

I've written 9 of them and found them literally all over the place...at one point, my article was the entire opening page of a scraper site. Big G never punished me for that (I had nothing to do with it), but it was something of an eye opener to say the least.

Anyway, they can be a great way to generate traffic both in the short and long-term if you can write something of quality. If it's unique, that's a bonus.

The up (and downside) is that you'll find clicks from SERPs for terms you wouldn't even have thought of before. For example, I'm pretty well all over the place in Google for a lot of terms related to "ikobo" (e.g. iKobo review, iKobo scam) based on a review/article I wrote on the company.

Google is pretty good at determining the original source of an article and whose should be ranked first (I'm guessing based on the age factor), so you don't need to worry much from that regard.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:19 am    Post subject:
 
 

Today during back link checking, I have found 10 sites where one of our article has been placed. All these sites are having different layouts different IPs and different content except that page where our article has placed but these sites are having same page title descriptions within the title tag which is the title article itself. More than 10 sites are having same title tag description. In what way big G or other major search engine will consider this factor. Will this be a threat for us? Alternatively, threat for those sites?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Most likely only one of those pages will show in the serps, no big deal to you unless you also have the page in your site, then even if yours was the original it may not show. The link to your site will still count both with Google and with the over search engines.

Remember that SERPs is not the only reason to have content on your site, if the page is useful to your visitors, than it is providing benefit to your site even if it doesn't show in the SERPs.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:37 am    Post subject:
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There is nothing wrong with article submission as long as it is original and the author has provided proper citations to sources used. The thing you have to always remember before submitting your article is to properly place the article on sites that cater to such topics discussed in the article. Also, a submitted article is useless once it is poor in content. So relatively, provide a good article for your readers. Always think of your readers first before anything else. I think that producing a good article that is also beneficial to many will automatically boost up your site and at the same time a bonus credibility for your company.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:08 am    Post subject:
 
 

Sylvia: basically, it will put all the sites on an even keel in terms of promotion. It's almost a random thing as far as who gets the highest rank for an article.

However, this is a short-term effect. In the long run, the person who wrote and published the article on his/her own site tends to get a higher rank for the article and content within because 1) the person promotes it more aggressively and 2) it doesn't get buried as deeply in a site's architecture.

Like chatterfox said though, if you're doing it for SERP benefit, you're doing it for the wrong reasons. Worry about your users first, and the SERPs will come.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject:
 
 

Hi Sylvia,

Thanks for asking the question on article submission and content duplicity long back for me. I have gone through the all posts and got the relevant answers. However I do have questions on this issue. Like:

Can I submit the same article, which I have already published in my own site's article repository, to different article directory to gain back links?

And can I write article for my blog simply to promote my site products. For example: To sell soft toys, I have written an article that "how you can make your friends happy" giving link back to product pages of my main site. Will this be considered as spammy? Or will it be harmful for my main site?
 
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