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Edmond Dantès

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:57 pm    Post subject: Something strange
 
 

12170 registered users
and in Italy --->03:55 p.m.

I'M ALONE on Hedir


What do YOU think??
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject:
 
 

I check in several times a day and am usually the only one. How on earth can all of those submissions be reviewed if no one is here?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:17 pm    Post subject:
 
 

"How on earth can all of those submissions be reviewed if no one is here?"

Lets imagine a scenario:
The category for real estate already has 25 sites. Now the 26th website wants to get into the category. It can not get inside the category without bumping one of the other 25 away.

So what does it do to bump the other 25 away:
1. Puts a remote voting script on his website to encourage people to vote.

And once with the help of our initial team we can reach that "inflection point" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflection_point

we would have created a self sustaining model.

There are something we can do to reach this inflection point faster:
1. create a trophy for being part of hedir. Which people will proudly display on their website.
2. Make it easy for people to use hedir as a platoform. Expose you database table views in read only mode. So people can take this list of websites and do good things with it.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject:
Latest Blog Post : http://norah.hedir.com
 
 

We are just 2 months old (may be one month of active participation) and we are already hitting close to 1,000 visitor a day. We can expect more participation in the coming days. Our category based review system will help us clean up the review queue.

Now virtually there is no need to dig down the forums to review websites, you will get fresh 5 sites every time you log in.

Please read http://www.hedir.com/category-reviewqueue.html for more details.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject:
 
 

I'm getting a flash-back to those dreadful internet days when all kinds of sites had "vote for me on blabla.com". I REALLY didn't like it then, so please convince me that I will like it now.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject:
Latest Blog Post : http://norah.hedir.com
 
 

It is not only voting but voting is just a part of it.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject:
 
 

I'm certain that there aren't really 12000 users. Hedir just reached 1000 the other day. Is this a left-over from the hack? I'm guessing so, especially considering that in the 194 pages Shocked in the Submission forum, there are many, many posts by, for example, "info" -- yet in each of those posts it is said that the user has only posted once.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:04 am    Post subject:
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Hedir is almost one year old but community submission process is only two months old. We had close to 17,000 resources in waiting under the old system, so we thought to convert it to our new system. In the process we have created users as well.

We have taken the first part of email id as username (a hack to forum login) which resulted in 100s of info users. We have allowed our users to edit their username; hopefully they will participate and change their username.

It was a learning experience; at least we were able to speed up Hedir, now we are almost 300% times faster than earlier and still striving to make it faster.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:48 pm    Post subject: hmm ..
 
 

"I'm getting a flash-back to those dreadful internet days when all kinds of sites had "vote for me on blabla.com"."

I dont know of any other site on the internet in the past/present which tried to rank sites based on user votes.

The only time I saw "vote for me on blabla.com" was in flashing ads on porn website of girls. Where the website putting the ad wanted to attract traffic to its site.

Would love it if you could prove me wrong with some examples from http://www.archive.org
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Site submission and review

Members that make a review are only redhex, CTPhil, beefman, baggeroli, acorus...... only "old members" NO answers from Authors.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Quote:
The only time I saw "vote for me on blabla.com" was in flashing ads on porn website of girls.


Exactly my point. Also hacker and crack sites used to do this. Not necessarily flashing ads, just a ranking system. Btw: if I'm not mistaken, even Google had (or has?) voting buttons on the toolbar Smile

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I dont know of any other site on the internet in the past/present which tried to rank sites based on user votes.


There are several directories which use a voting system, although not a remote voting system.

I just said I didn't like the idea of a remote voting system, nothing personal.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject:
 
 

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Members that make a review are only redhex, CTPhil, beefman, baggeroli, acorus......


From now on we call it the RECTBEBAFRACEDIR Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:14 pm    Post subject:
 
 

10 minutes to understand Your joke

I'm older than You ?!?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:42 pm    Post subject:
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I am still postive about the whole theme. I am sure people will come and review sites at Hedir (give it some more time).
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: sad case, but it takes a solid core to go on
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I do see that no one are reviewing much. I try to do around 3 reviews daily. There is just too much bad submission in the queue.

I decide to use my own simple house rules for selecting url for review from http://www.hedir.com/free-submission/index.html from now onwards.

URL selection
If it is something like keyword1keyword2.com I will ignore it. If it is like companyname.com, brandname.com, personalname.com, someothernamelikeword.com then I will consider visiting the thread. I did observe that generic keyword domain name turns out to be bad submission most of the time.

Thread Author
If the thread author is a regular, I will make an effort to visit the thread and check it out. What goes around comes around and regular's submission more often than not are good submission. And yes, a dozen of one nite stand submission dun make you a regular. BTW I am a big man, so i am large. Laughing

Description
Once in the thread, I sometimes pray that submitter do use good english in the description. The description simple show how much the site owner/submitter respect/desire to be listed on hedir.

I really want to be lame and say this: SEO is a set of techniques, it is not a new school of grammer where you construct a long sentences by stringing and repeating your keywords. And then you pray hard that spiders will read your keywords and hope human start growing 4 more limbs. Shocked

In short, bad description = rot in the submission queue.

Mass submission check
Once you find a decent link to review, you look if the submitter did multiple submissions. If yes, beware and check if there are duplicates or affiliates (under the same catergory).

Once the coast is clear, then I can put on my thinking hat and enjoy the review process.

It does look like a sad case with a small core of reviewers. But it does take a solid core to go on.

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