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The forum 'Site submission and review' will not be used for site review purpose.
What else would it be used for?
And while the point system you suggested sounds interesting, I don't see how it would help solve the issues brought up in this thread. As ADAC mentioned, I don't have too many sites, but let's say I did submit a pile. Because of the number of points I have, my sites would immediately rank higher than sites who could have been posted weeks ago and already have 6 or 8 reviews by posters with fewer points.
Then let's say baggeroli sees I've submitted some sites and votes for my sites as well. My submissions, with 2 votes, would always be on top.
I don't understand this:
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The forum 'Site submission and review' will not be used for site review purpose.
What else would it be used for?
What i meant was, do not open the 'site submission and review ' forum directly to review sites. Consider the forum as an unsorted database. Use the priority list to review sites.
You won't submit a pile of sites, would you winterfrost ?
Not many people will be submitting many sites together i think. Even if someone submits a heap of sites, then the solution could be to show only one site out of the lot. Rest of the sites submitted by the user could be shown on a different page. _________________ Evolution is always better than revolution. My attempt at Blogging!
Hmmm, this sounds a bit complicated to me. I'm more in favor of the KISS principle.
There's nothing wrong with the Submission and Review Forum. The ORDERING system of the forum is wrong. Just change that. I favor Winterfrost's idea: number of votes --> Submitter's HEDIR points --> Date.
Winterfrost's or my review/vote isn't worth more than let's say Francesco's or CTPhil's. I don't want more voting power than other reviewers. (I just want more points than Winterfrost )
A Submission and Review forum AND a priority list means more work. Moderators have to move sites from A to B.
Lakhya: please tell me you're going to test this new system thoroughly on a test server, before letting it rip.
A more urging problem (IMO) is the lack of reviewers. Could you at least notify submitters they have to review sites in order to get included? If only 10 out of a 100 are willing to put some time in reviewing, it would make a difference.
If this system is going to be implemented shouldn't moderators be disallowed to submit sites of their own? It's a bit unfair and strange-looking to see all moderator sites on top of the pile.
I think lakhya's idea is an improvement, but winterfrost and baggeroli's idea:
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There's nothing wrong with the Submission and Review Forum. The ORDERING system of the forum is wrong. Just change that. I favor Winterfrost's idea: number of votes --> Submitter's HEDIR points --> Date.
is a valid suggestion. However:
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A Submission and Review forum AND a priority list means more work. Moderators have to move sites from A to B.
That could be quite easily integrated into the database. It would be a selective ordering of sites that already exist. Imagine it like a duplicate forum, but ordered in a different way. I think.
HEDIR can work. I stuck about so long because I needed to review sites, that helped me appreciate HEDIR for what it was, and so now I'm still reviewing sites.
If you do use that system, it'll at least give everyone a chance of getting reviewed, eventually. I assume that once a site reaches approval it would be automatically removed?
Also, how do we 'recommend', will it change again? Is it just through the vote button, by posting, or a combination of the two? _________________ Matt
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That could be quite easily integrated into the database. It would be a selective ordering of sites that already exist. Imagine it like a duplicate forum, but ordered in a different way. I think.
OK, but what's the benefit? The submission and review forum just needs an ordering system and it becomes a priority list automatically.
Last edited by baggeroli on Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:43 pm
I like the idea of separating the review and the voting in. It only takes me a couple minutes to see if the site should be included. Where a review may take 5-10 minutes.
Do a review only if requested will save a lot of time getting sites added or excluded.
Not too worried about the moderator sites coming up first. You guys can't have that many sites, so we should be getting rid of them pretty quickly.
Little concerned with using the point to deside how to rank the list. Picking on WinterFrost again one bad vote form him would send some one so low in the lists that the would never see daylight again.
Also instead of getting rid of bad sites we will just shove them down to the bottom of the list and never get voted out.
OK, but what's the benefit? The submission and review forum just needs an ordering system and it becomes a priority llist automatically.
It could be a replacement for the "Today's site for Review" section on the right nav bar. It would make it easier for reviewers to pop in and review a couple of sites, though as you point out, it isn't a neccesity, but a luxury.
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Also instead of getting rid of bad sites we will just shove them down to the bottom of the list and never get voted out.
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If they haven't reviewed any sites by xx days remove them from the list, they will need to resubmit if they want their site reviewed.
That would mean that bad sites would automatically be removed. And as said in other threads, "bad sites" could be spotted by using a "Spam" button or the like. You could even have two lists. One for those that are at the bottom of the pile (ie, the ones you want to get rid of) and those that are close to being recommended.
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You never can tell the number of reviews. Only posts. That's why the number of posts has to be higher than 10.
If you use the number of votes someone has cast (automatically counted in some forum scripts) then you can tell easier how many reviews people have made. _________________ Matt
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What about a button-bar with a Review-button, Comment-button, Spam-button and a Vote-button instead of the quick reply form? That way it's easy to track all actions for future improvements.
Just a thought. (maybe too much recoding involved?)
Last edited by baggeroli on Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:19 pm
Also instead of getting rid of bad sites we will just shove them down to the bottom of the list and never get voted out.
That's exactly what will happen if you just change the ordering system of the current review forum.
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It could be a replacement for the "Today's site for Review" section on the right nav bar.
This should be a list specifically for the logged-in member, based on the sites he/she hasn't reviewed yet and which are worth reviewing-time (based on position in the Review-forum). Just like on syndic8.com.
I know Francesco, for me the no. 1 problemo: Lack of reviewers!
Worst of all: if you review a site and submitter hasn't reviewed 10 sites in the first month (which happens on about 99,9% of all submissions), the site goes on the Rejected pile and so does the time and effort you've put in.
Still, I review sites because I like to. I must be a crazy sheep.
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one bad vote form him would send some one so low in the lists that the would never see daylight again.
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