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Should we ask a submitter to review other sites before his/her site is reviewed by the community?
yes
71%
 71%  [ 5 ]
no
28%
 28%  [ 2 ]
current system is ok
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 7

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:36 am    Post subject: Current Review Policy
 
 

i am not comfortable with the current review policy. new sites top old sites. hows that? sites with more reviews are going down. i think admins need to think on it. why not give more power to contributing members?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:45 am    Post subject:
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I agree that the 'site submission and review' forum is not doing justice to active members or good sites as new submissions are pushing old submissions down. If anyone has an opinion on how this problem can be solved, please do share with the community.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject:
 
 

Well, let's not pretend this is a new issue. This problem was discussed weeks ago

My suggestion: filter on number of posts by submitter (lets say 15) and then order by last change date (like it's done now).

Another suggestion: the number 1 problem is the lack of reviewers. Not strange when you don't tell submitters that in order to be included in the HEDIR, they have to review at least 10 sites! Why isn't this stated at submission? Sent out a mail to every submitter and explain that they need to review 10 sites. It's not much work for a PR4 link. Any serious webmaster would gladly trade an half hour for a PR4 link.

Come on you guys, HEDIR is dying at the moment!!!
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:03 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Worrying about the current policy seems a little silly in light of the reality that submissions are stacking up like cord wood and almost no one is reviewing any.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:49 pm    Post subject:
 
 

how abt using only priority list for review?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Yes, for now I'm just going to review sites that appear to the right when I'm in the category my sites are listed in.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:12 pm    Post subject:
 
 

baggeroli wrote:
Well, let's not pretend this is a new issue. This problem was discussed weeks ago... Not strange when you don't tell submitters that in order to be included in the HEDIR, they have to review at least 10 sites! Why isn't this stated at submission?


Many weeks ago. I believe the first time it was mentioned was October 27, the day the submission form was put in place (read the 4th post down). I knew it was going to be a major problem as soon as I noticed this serious omission from the submission form.

With the major changes begun at the end of October:
- It's become easier to submit sites since you provided a form. Result: the submission forum is being flooded with users who will never return.
- It's become more troublesome to review sites, because submitters are required to vote in addition to making comments. Result: fewer reviewers.
- It's become impossible to get approved because you don't even tell the submitters what they have to do to GET approved! Result: a mounting pile of unapproved sites which discourages submitters and reviewers alike.

Hmm... I wonder why the system isn't working...

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject:
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hey guys things are yet to improve, take the positive side of it. I am sure if we can thing together we can come up with a better solution.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:34 pm    Post subject:
 
 

How bout when you click on the review sites link, filter the sites by the number of reviews the contribution has posted by default. allow for other ways of filtering.

those that review a lot will will always be on top by default (at least til the sites added or rejected). If you want to move your site up you need to post reviews. If they haven't reviewed any sites by xx days remove them from the list, they will need to resubmit if they want their site reviewed. This will make the list of tolerable size.

Make a sticky "wheres my site?" telling them how to get their site to be more prominent in the reviews. When they submit a site and it's not on the top of the list hopefully they will notice the sticky

winterfrost can't have that many sites to review so he can only dominate the top of the list for so long. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject:
 
 

You never can tell the number of reviews. Only posts. That's why the number of posts has to be higher than 10.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:43 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Well that's pretty much a programming issue. If you can track posts you can track where the post was posted at and click a counter for that contributor.

Might be more work then they want to do for this though. For this kind of site to work there will need to be some code written that is above what a normal forum would need. But if the choice was to do this sort of tracking it could be done.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:31 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Sure you can track where the post was posted but that doesn't necessarily make it a review. But it's nit-picking. Any filtering system will be progress.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:22 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Wouldn't be too difficult to base it off the voting polls, I believe that is already being tracked to prevent someone from repeatedly voting for their own site. Maybe a combination of the two.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:57 pm    Post subject:
 
 

That's a good point ADAC. Still, I have done lots of reviews with pending recommendation and vote. But it would be a good start.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:25 am    Post subject:
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Let me propose the following changes:

The forum 'Site submission and review' will not be used for site review purpose.

If anyone wants to use that forum for review then he/she can do so. But this will not be promoted as the official review forum.

Priority list will be used for site review purpose. This list will be accessible to all. But only moderators will be able to add/delete a site from this list.

Sites appearing on the list will be ranked according to their hedir vote points.

Hedir vote points for a site will be calculated by adding the submitter's hedir points and reviewers' hedir points.

Let me illustrate this with an example:

user A has 'x' hedir points.

User A submits a site for review

The total vote points for the site will be 'x' without any votes.

Reviewer B has 'y' hedir points.

Reviewer B votes on A's site


If B has voted 'yes' the total hedir vote points for the site will be 'x'+'y'

IF B has voted 'no' the total hedir points for the site will be 'x'+'-y'

What do you say?

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