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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:26 pm    Post subject: Signature abuse?
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Get to my point quick. I notice that we had a user serj who made several posts.

http://www.hedir.com/groupthink/viewtopic.php?t=11264
http://www.hedir.com/groupthink/viewtopic.php?p=19854

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And from these 2 posts, there are "signature" links to 3 sites of which only one are under hedir submission which the other 2, Male enchancement and HGH Research are not under hedir submission. I am quite uncomfortable by the content and purpose of these 2 links.

In addition, serj does not have a official signature. His site submission thread: http://www.hedir.com/groupthink/viewtopic.php?p=17146 does not contain any signature in his post.

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I am quite sure this type of behaviour is not totally acceptable. And given that search engine do not really obey the no-follow tag, (esp yahoo), this type of behaviour should not be allowed. I view this as a form of spamming.

Last but not least, I got nothing against serj. He is doing reviews and I feel that he is contributing. It is just that this behaviour should be kept in check .

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject:
 
 

I just found out this was discussed before. The direct text links with the use of HTML is still possible.

With regard to Serj's enhancements: maybe we should only allow links to sites submitted for review. I don't know if that's possible code-wise. It would mean that after rejection of the site, the signature also has to be filtered.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:15 am    Post subject:
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Rather hedir team can disallow htmls to avoid such spams.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:13 am    Post subject:
 
 

redhex,

In my defense, I put those links in my signature to make people aware of the sites that I have designed and am planning to submit, at thsi point in time I have only Ovation Productions up for review, next will follow one of the other two, and finally the last one. It is in no way SPAM but only a means to make people aware of what I have comming. As far as those sites being offensive, that is absolutely rediculous. I have made sure that none of my content is even above PG13, I believe it is all rated G. There is nothing (either pictures nor word content that is offensive. The only page that gets some what graphic in describing the proper precedure in excercises. And that page (at the very top) states that this page contains mature content, and again even that page I can not see being offensive to someone...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:20 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Some forums allow links in a signature, some do not. As long as they are in line with forum policy, I see no problem.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject:
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Serj,
I got nothing personal against you. In fact you did recommend my site once before and I am grateful for that.

It is the action of adding html links as pseudo-signature and the potential problem that it might bring.

The problem: the admin is allowing html tags to be used in post. Potential user can post pseudo-signature and with that, comes unlimited number of characters and links in the pseudo-signature. This consume bandwidth and may slow down the forum.

And you do not have a official signature and opt to use the pseudo-signature every now and then. Why not make it a official signature. Making it a official signature will save everyone trouble should html tags be removed or when you update your links. You, (or any mod) need not search all your posts to update the pseudo-signature. Don't the community agree?

In addition, should sites not approved for hedir be shown in the signature? I feel that this could be something that the community should be looking at. BTW serj, why not submit them for approval now? I got the impression that they should be approved pretty quickly since you describe them to be of proper content.

The crux of this thread is 2 fold:
Do we allow/want any links in signature?
Do we allow/want pseudo-signaure?

I will restate myself again, I got nothing against serj. It is just unfortunate that I have to use his post as the scenario.

CTPhil: Yes, in line with forum policy. We are talking about the grey zone of the policy now.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject:
 
 

two reason's why I don't add them now, 1st of all it has taken me several weeks and my 1st site is still at 8 votes, which means I have to track it and make sure it stays on the first page so people notice it, tracking two sites and replying to questions and making sure both sites get approved takes time, and being married with a full time time, while at the same time going to Boise State University, does not leave very much time for me to do the things with my sites that I would like.

2nd, the HGH is not quite finished yet...I still need to finish with quite a few pages until it is ready for submission...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Ohh and as far as the oficcial signaute, the only time that I don't include my signature is when it is a post in the thread that I have my site posted to keep the viewers from being distracted by the other sites...and getting this one voted in, I mean I only need two positive votes to get it into the directory...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:46 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Redhex, can you explain what you mean by pseudo-signature? I'm not sure I'm getting the distinction.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:14 am    Post subject:
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CTPhil:
pseudo-signature are signatures that you type using html in EACH post. While the official signature are those that you edit in your user settings.

Serj, pardon my mistake if you are using the official signature and turning it off selectively in your posts. Another user msealey is also using pseudo-signature. The admin care to comment?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:05 am    Post subject:
 
 

Thanks for the explanation!
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:05 am    Post subject:
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Quote:
Rather hedir team can disallow htmls to avoid such spams.


We are thinking in that direction.

Quote:
Serj, pardon my mistake if you are using the official signature and turning it off selectively in your posts. Another user msealey is also using pseudo-signature. The admin care to comment?


Pseudo signatures should not be used. Use official signatures. Once we strip off the HTML, the links will lose value.

BTW, i have not found msealy using any pseudo signatures Confused

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:12 am    Post subject:
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I not too sure about msealey's post but his signature's link do not have the "no follow" tag. Care to explain?

If you look at my screen capture, links that are highlighted pink are nofollow links. msealey links are nofollow.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject:
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hmm... looks like a bug. I have posted a bug report here http://www.hedir.com/openmic/index/Hedir_Bugs#Major_bugs , it will be corrected.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:13 am    Post subject:
 
 

No Lakhya, it's not a bug. Plain html links in your sig are still allowed. This was mentioned weeks ago. Check my sig.
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