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I kind of agree. The directoy itself is kind of wacky. Just the fact that is says 'next 20' and there are only 3 sites on the following page bugs me. It should just say 'next' or 'next 3'. I know I am being picky here, but I think it looks odd. Also, when I site is added to the directoy, like mine was, how is it decided where it goes? When I click on my category, the sites that come up first are non-voted sites and my site shows up on the second page. I think sites that were voted on by the community and added, should be displayed on the first page of the directory. Okay, so I want to be on the first page
I undertand that directories need to make money with sponsored websites. However, many websites that accept sponsered/paid sites as well as free, still peform the review process and only accept quality sites. It will say, 'if your site is not accepted, your money will be promptly refunded' or something like that. That way you receive revenue on the sites that are accepted, but you also have a directory that contains only quality sites. Just because you pay does not mean you should be able to submit a bad site. What if a site is rejected during the review process? Can they turn around and pay to be sponsered and included anyway? _________________ Janet
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Not sure I'm reading this correctly but it appears that sites without listable content but with checkbooks can circumnavigate the diligent work by community volunteers. These paid listings appear above the hard work of volunteer directory reviewers who have committed lots of hours in pursuit of creating a place for overlooked quality content on the web.
floristwatch, we are NOT mixing up the sponsors with other sites and we are NOT going to have more than 2 per category. As i have mentioned previously, sponsors are ADVERTISEMENTS, and we have clearly highlighted them as such. We are NOT endorsing these listings and i believe average surfers are smart enough to distinguish. _________________ Evolution is always better than revolution. My attempt at Blogging!
I undertand that directories need to make money with sponsored websites. However, many websites that accept sponsered/paid sites as well as free, still peform the review process and only accept quality sites. It will say, 'if your site is not accepted, your money will be promptly refunded' or something like that. That way you receive revenue on the sites that are accepted, but you also have a directory that contains only quality sites. Just because you pay does not mean you should be able to submit a bad site. What if a site is rejected during the review process? Can they turn around and pay to be sponsered and included anyway?
We donot accept just any site. That is why there is a refund policy mentioned in the submission page. Believe it or not, in the last month we rejected(and refunded) about 56 sites with low standards. I admit that sponsor listings donot have to pass through such rigorous checking as done by the community, but that is only understandable. You can not compare review by an experienced group of webmasters(read community members) with a small team (currently 2) of staff editors. That is why there will be those occassional sites with no so great quality in the sponsor listing section. But, let me assure you that we are tring to improve all the time and below par sites will find it harder to get into the sponsor listings with time. _________________ Evolution is always better than revolution. My attempt at Blogging!
I understand the start up pains, I really do, but you can't tell me that the two sites mentioned already have any redeaming qualities whatsoever.. And I also understand the workload, trust me I have two completly seperate and full time careers right now.. I just thought that for sites like many of us have that are certianly capable of getting in on their own merit, that it would be far easier to simply pay a few bucks and get the top listing above the submitted sites..
And if we don't point out what sites we feel don't meet the standards you'll never know..
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject: Latest Blog Post : Blog and earn!
I think the system is perfect, you should not break promises with time, old sites were promised a listing(some paid some free). They should stay there but the sites with more votes will surely come up and ultimetly old sites with less votes will be pushed out of hedir without breaking any promises. _________________ http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/orkut-banned-india/ - Orkut getting a ban in India, why? Is it fair? Politicians not liking it as some voices are raised against.
We donot accept just any site. That is why there is a refund policy mentioned in the submission page. Believe it or not, in the last month we rejected(and refunded) about 56 sites with low standards. I admit that sponsor listings donot have to pass through such rigorous checking as done by the community, but that is only understandable. You can not compare review by an experienced group of webmasters(read community members) with a small team (currently 2) of staff editors. That is why there will be those occassional sites with no so great quality in the sponsor listing section. But, let me assure you that we are tring to improve all the time and below par sites will find it harder to get into the sponsor listings with time
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I didn't realize you rejected that many sites. I do think this is a great directory and I feel that in time the quirks will be worked out. Also, I noticed that my site is now on the first page of my category. I don't know who did that, but thanks. _________________ Janet
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:19 am Post subject: Latest Blog Post : Blog and earn!
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Also, I noticed that my site is now on the first page of my category. I don't know who did that, but thanks.
It is basically due to the votes and reviews. The more votes you have the better position you get. This will push down the early added sites with no votes. _________________ http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/orkut-banned-india/ - Orkut getting a ban in India, why? Is it fair? Politicians not liking it as some voices are raised against.
I think the system is perfect, you should not break promises with time, old sites were promised a listing(some paid some free). They should stay there but the sites with more votes will surely come up and ultimetly old sites with less votes will be pushed out of hedir without breaking any promises.
Well, you'd better think again. You're using a contradictio in terminus. First you say "sites were promised a listing" and then you say "old sites will be pushed out of HEDIR". How's that for not breaking a promise? Especially for paid listings.
Why not just use a multiple pages set-up with ~20 listings per page? First pages will have highest PR anyway and old listings are slowly pushed down to page 2, 3 etc. That wouldn't break any promise. _________________ Please review some sites.
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject: Latest Blog Post : Blog and earn!
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Well, you'd better think again. You're using a contradictio in terminus. First you say "sites were promised a listing" and then you say "old sites will be pushed out of HEDIR". How's that for not breaking a promise? Especially for paid listings.
Hedir will not remove the sites but the process will push it down and any site can come up using votes, so it is not breaking any rules. For paid site I think hedir team will have to create new categories and also need to limit paid sites per category. _________________ http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/orkut-banned-india/ - Orkut getting a ban in India, why? Is it fair? Politicians not liking it as some voices are raised against.
Call it what you like but in my book a listing is a listing. If you promised a site a listing in your directory, you can't just push it out and say: "Hee, it's still in our database, you can find your site in the Added forum". _________________ Please review some sites.
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Yes, it has to be dealt with. Perhaps it's a good idea to move all listed sites which have not gone through the community review system (paid listings excluded) to the Review Forum. Send an e-mail to the owners explaining HEDIR has new inclusion rules which are being applied to old listings as well. Also mention the benefits of reviewing sites with a link to own submission in the signature.
I don't know what kind of directory HEDIR used to be (free links/reciprocal) but if owners don't like it, they can request removal of their site. I know this means breaking a promise but it's just necessary. _________________ Please review some sites.
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Our staff editor is going through it and the issue should be sorted out soon.
baggeroli, as i stated previously, sites which have not gone through community review will gradually get replaced. If i remove all the sites at one go, then hedir categories will become empty, which we can not afford. _________________ Evolution is always better than revolution. My attempt at Blogging!
These two sites are sponsor lisitings which will get shifted to the sponsor section. We are shifting all such sites to sponsor listings section one by one.
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