Hedir Review : Who will control the Web? Human Or Robots

AjiNIMC · Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 516 18722 Hedir Points

This might be a weird query to go to my database but certainly not to the log files which says that I still get maximum traffic from a six letter site GOOGLE.

Is google handling web? Yes certainly it is. It is dictating terms and policies to the webmasters through their ranking algo's and Page Ranks. Through adsense they are reaching out to the almost every web owner. Now with free analytics few more webmasters are supporting Google. Google is certainly THE partner to web owners. And it holds the maximum shares of WWW and thus a very powerful dictator too.

Under today's scenario google is holding the ownership, will it continue the stage for long?

May be NO. A Search engine like http://www.wink.com (which uses Digg, Furl, Slashdot, Yahoo! MyWeb, and more) is using the distributive power to emerge as a better search engine. Hedir is coming up with better plans like,

Open DB allowing developers to run hedir's ranking algo's not only for sites but for anything.
Category forums which will offer distributive and unbiased platform for discussions (example Mortgage category forums).
Integration of browser extensions with search engines to collect human preference.

In my opinion a human empowered force is emerging to take over the automated ranking algorithms. Wink or Hedir may not be able to beat Google today but certainly the idea is powerful enough for a WWW revolution.

What's your opinion?

Will Google stay as the undisputed king?
Will a combination of digg, hedir, del.ico.us,wink will give it a good fight?

Human Vs Robots (the war is on)

Some successful and some upcoming Participatory model's

http://www.digg.com
http://www.hedir.com
http://del.icio.us/
http://reddit.com
http://www.wink.com
http://www.flickr.com/
http://wikipedia.org/
there is a big list and I will post it sometimes

bret · Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject:

Google is doing great and as a shareholder you can be happy too as "Google Q1 Revenues At $2.25 Billion- an increase of 79 per cent compared to Q1FY05".

We as a community are trying our best to arrange WWW better than any Robot based search engine. This is too early to say something but certainly Hedir has done much better than any other directory in terms of growth rate (Please for God's sake do not value directory but site's added to it, have a look at the sites rejected by hedir).

Atleast we were able to reject few thousand spam sites from web and it is growing much faster than we expected. All thanks to our community members.

Certainly the war is on "Human Vs Robots".

Señor COOL · Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject:

kappixteam · Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 265 10353 Hedir Points

Apropo Google's dictating webmasters and ultimately how content is presented and perhaps which, here's a link I ran across a couple of weeks ago.

I have a feeling some of you have bumped into it but, heck, I'll add it anyhow:

http://www.robinsloan.com/epic/

For those of you who haven't, your thoughts pls.

Thanx

Señor COOL · Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject:

I don't think Google is dictating to webmasters, or anyone for that matter. There are too many sites that are too far advanced for Google to establish a content monopoly in the timeframe outlined.

AjiNIMC · Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 516 18722 Hedir Points

Out of 100 webmaster's 90% try their best to keep Google happy. 10% are confident enough with their ideas that they hardly worry, Google worries for them.

floristwatch · Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 54 1887 Hedir Points

I've only been around HEDir for a few months but see the same issue here as those in the 'directory that cannot be named.'

1) Humans Do It Better.
2) Growth is slow due to measured consideration of the submissions by caring reviewers.
3) The vast majority of submissions are cr*p.
4) The primary reason you don't see webmasters screaming about lazy editors, competitors & corruption at HEDir is because it's not yet considered an authority site. If it were, then the very fine people here - that have donated countless hours to grow the directory and ditch the spam - would be subjected to the same level of vitriol. It's clear that the volunteer HEDir editors want to make a difference.

The volunteer spam submitters don't care about your passion, in fact they only hope to exploit it.

Some of those sites can still game Google, but they can't pass the HUMAN sniff test. IMO the web needs more objective human help.

The Mods here know what a listable site looks like. Rather than opening the floodgates and drown the volunteers, I'd give the Mods the permission to outright list good sites and grant permissions to other trustworthy contributors to grow the directory more swiftly.

AjiNIMC, all of those Web 2.0 sites you list in you first post are ripe for exploitation, especially is smaller niches. I'd take Google in 99% of searches over the best folksonomy any of those eight have to offer.

bret · Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: