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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:39 pm    Post subject: Target-Revokable Email Addresses
 
 

Years back an absolutely incredible technology was made available for free by Lucent (Bell Labs) called the Lucent Personalized Web Assistant, one of whose components was an email address anonymiser, using the Principles of Target-Revokable Email Addresses.
It worked very well, but the technology for some reason did not get into widespread use.
The original Lucent pages, and the commercial ProxyMate anonymiser page can still be found in Google's cache.
Perhaps it can be revived again?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject: It's not a "GMail" feature!!
 
 

It's been published in the RFC 822 since 1982!
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: Relax
 
 

Does spam piss everyone off that badly. I use filters on gmail and I rarely get spam. If I get spammed, I delete it. I know it's spam without opening it. I just delete it.
It's like traffic on the way to work. I would like to have spikes shoot out the side of my car and demolish other cars or a magnetic field that pushes other drivers out of my way, but I don't. I just drive and expect delays from time to time.
Use filters. Develop good ones. Don't register for everything willy-nilly and if you have to, create a dummy email account. Have some tolerance.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Some of you claim that the gmail method would not alleviate spam. Perhaps I'm missing the point, but I am using this method not to rid myself of spam, but to find out who's causing me to get spam. I still use a separate account for all real mail so gmail is essentially a catch-all address for spam anyway, But now I can figure out which morons I deal with are responsible for my spam. Thanks PCBguy; I think I'll give this a try.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:48 am    Post subject: Intriguing Technique
 
 

Is this a secondary application? What was this + trick originally implemented to fix?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Catch-All Account?
 
 

Sure you can use a catch-all account on your mail server, and you will be doing exactly what spammers want you to do!! You obviously don't use a catch-all account or you would already know that spammers love you for that, and they will send you spam 24x7 handing over "delivered" stats to their customers - thanks to you not rejecting ANY alias that htey can come up with!

Yeah, try using a catch-all account, just try it! I have 10,000 attempts a day with spammer "trying" to deliver to contrived/guessed aliases my mail server.

I simply manage my own [complex] email aliases - which is tedious no matter how you slice it. But I do get to nail the sites that say that they didn't sell my email addresses!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject:
 
 

The + in e-mail addresses has also been a standard feature of Sendmail for 15 or so years and yet I've found that probably a third to a half of all websites that I register with will somehow choke on the plus sign. Often it lets you sign up, but then the unsubscribe page won't allow a plus sign in the address.

It would be nice if more web developers read RFCs, but that's not likely.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject:
 
 

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Often it lets you sign up, but then the unsubscribe page won't allow a plus sign in the address.


That sounds to me like they might be preventing the unsubscribe on purpose.

I would assume within one website, the same function would be used to check for valid email address formats on all email fields. I know you have to be careful of assumptions, but if the plus sign is allowed on the subscribe page, it should be allowed on the unsubscribe page.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject:
 
 

This is also good to prevent phishing attempts on your paypal, ebay, or bank accounts.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject:
 
 

use 10 minute mail and forget those problems:
search google for 10 minute mail
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: google apps
 
 

I do something similar with my Google Apps for My Domain. I just use jake@jonesfamily.com as my main address.

Everytime I visit a new site, I just give out a different address, like jake.hedir@jonesfamily.com. Doesn't have the + problem.

Another alternative for gmail is the use of periods. Less easy to keep track of, but jakejones12345@gmail.com, j.akejones12345@gmail.com, jake.jones12345@gmail.com, j.a.k.e.j.o.n.e.s.1.2.3.4.5@gmail.com and j..ake..j..on..es12..345@gmail.com are all the same address.

Those are fake addresses (I hope), but you get the idea.

To those who suggest this means more addresses for spammers to get ahold of, you can just pre-filter everything with a period or something.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:51 pm    Post subject:
 
 

Nice trick Jake. I know about the "plus" trick but didn't know the "dot"trick. Thanks!
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: gmail is awesome!
 
 

Gmail is:SO cool!it REALLY WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject:
 
 

This is a good technique for knowing who added your email address to a spam list, but you'll be getting spam for the rest of your life doing this!

Theres a much better solution, from spamgourmet.com. They allow you to create disposable addresses very much like the one you create with gmail but the catch is, after a certain number of emails, they get blocked going forward... by giving these disposable addresses to websites when you sign up, you can screen their emails, see if they're useful and see if they spam before allowing or blocking further emails. The naming convention is easy too

alias.5.username@spamgourmet.com. Where alias is the name you give the site -- such as amazon, 5 is the number of emails that pass through before they get blocked, and username is your spamgourmet.com username. From spamgourmet you can allow emails to continue going to your inbox forever, or block them outright.

The service is free, and wonderful. So far these are my stats:

Your message stats: 1,288 forwarded, 9,422 eaten. You have 460 disposable address(es).

I get a spam email about once a month from random email generators, but they never repeat.
 
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